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Originally Posted by kgar311
100% incorrect. It wasnt even a logical discussion that Zen could beat Rachel at any point during the year. It was unanimous thought that there was no way Zen could catch Rachel in any race. Now months down the line Zen beats a bunch of turf horses and dirt specialists on her own turf and she automatically is better then Rachel now  . Remember, when Rachel was running 116 beyers Zen was running 94's and barely beating average filly and mares at best and in one case only winning by a nose. |
The whole "who is better" debate at this point is kind of pointless. They are both exceptional future Hall of Famers; it's like arguing over who's better, Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle.
However, one consistent theme of many on this board throughout the year has been that somehow Zenyatta is inferior to Rachel because she's much "slower" on the Beyer scale. If many let go of their slavish reliance on the Beyers (which are pretty unreliable on synthetic surfaces), they might discover that Zenyatta is not as "slow" as they thought. On the Ragozin Sheets, Zenyatta was the "fastest" route horse in yesterday's Classic. She earned a "0" for her Vanity win and a 1.5 for her much-maligned victory in the Hirsch. The only other Classic horses to run faster than a "2" on the Sheets in a non-turf route race were Summer Bird (.75 in JCGC), Einstein (1.25 in Foster), and Quality Road (1.75 in JCGC - he earned a pair of "2"s for his trumpeted wins in the Fountain of Youth and Florida Derby).