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Originally Posted by SentToStud
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yes, i saw what you are asking about. Check the London Daily Mirror. Check The Independent. Check Al Jezeera.
And tell me, have YOU seen:
- Any Western political leaders call the Pope "stupid" as you suggest Muslim leaders should ... I have not. And will not, He's not a stupid man.
- The Pope actually apologize for his comments, aside from for the world's reaction to them? ... I have not. And likely will not, Again, the Pope is not a stupid man.
And please, give me your personal and sincere answer to this question:
Do you think it was just a simple mistake that the Pope's choice of words included "inhuman and evil" - when he quoted Manuel II Palaeologus - to characterise Islam?
Most Muslims, as well as many non-Islams do not care for Benedict's views on tolerance at least compared to JP II. Benedict's comments are seen by many to be consistent with his prior words and actions with regard to Islam.
Benedict is a stark contrast to the years of JPII who constantly spoke of bringing closer together Christians, Jews and Muslims. As I am sure you know, Benedict's first mass made no reference to a fraternal relationship with Islam.
I think it's interesting that people think some rock throwing Palestinians is the story here. The story here is the religous leader of the world chose to use the words "inhuman" and "evil" to characterize another religion. And you and I both should know it doesn't matter if he was quoting someone else.
On the lighter side of this, I DEMAND to know where the hell Rob Schneider is on all of this. A couple months back, he proclaimed he would never work with Mel Gibson. Seems he's giving a pass to the Pope on this.
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Al Jeeszera? Thats worse than watching FOX. And the London Daily Mirror. A wild guess would tell me since they just caught a number of Muslims planning to blow up planes coming out of London that the leaders there felt slightly "compelled" to say something. But the rest of the Arab/Muslim world?
The facts remain. There is a world wide religion that has one of the largest elements of fundamentalists. Islam. And to go along with these fundamentalisms, which does not necessarily have to be a bad word, comes a very bad offshoot... Total intolerance of others belief systems. And to square that bad combination of fundamentalism and intolerance, comes the belief in violence towards others that do not share this belief system. There is not another worldwide religion, AT THIS TIME, that shows such a largescale widespread ingrained belief system that encompasses these 3 most volatile attributes coming together at one time. Houston we have an obvious malfunction. It is very clear to me.
This is not to say we do not find radical Christian and Hindu groups, we do. But the % of people that practice a nonviolent, tolerant, nonfundamentalist view of these religions is much larger. Although if the Pope does not have someone review his speeches before he spouts out hatred... He lost a heck of a lot of standing, apology or not... Speaking of that, the last apology that came from another worldwide religious leader that is spreading the word of Islam in Iran and places beyond was when...? And has he lost standing?
And the last time he was criticized so heavily by other Islamic nations that they forced him into an apology happened when?