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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Interesting that for you, Jones is a lock while Thome and Sheffield are questionable. I looked at their career 162g averages and they are all very similar:

Jones 32-108, .307 avg, .406 obp, 11 sb, 109 runs
Sheff 32-105, .292 avg, .393 obp, 16 sb, 103 runs
Thome 40-111, .277 avg, .404 obp, 1 sb, 105 runs

Here's where I come out on it. When I have to debate their numbers or compare their cases against other players, that's a no for me. To me, a hall of famer is one that I say yes to without having to look at the numbers to make their case or say "well, since so and so's in, he should be in too." Guerrero was one of the most feared hitters in the game for a number of years and we remember that without looking up any numbers. Ichiro is one of the best hitters in the history of the game. No need to look up any numbers to remind you of that.

Those numbers are the only things that Shef and Thome were good at. Not to mention that Jones was a far better fielder than both and played an actual defensive position his whole career. Should a DH/horrific fielder be downgraded against a position player? Absolutely