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Originally Posted by Cardus
This is so divorced from reality, I'd be embarrassed to post the above.
Let's put aside his character: he might be a "truly great" person in the industry. I take it that you mean that he is a person with exceptional values. That's great, the industry needs more of this.
"Since coming to this country?" He arrived in Burbank, CA at the age of 11!! Invoking someone's immigration into the United States and subsequent professional success is usually reserved for someone who enters at least in a little later in life and creates something life-changing. I don't see how arriving in 1964 -- he was born in March 1953, according to the NTRA -- and finding a modicum of success decades later makes him a "genius."
Is he sui generis because he trained and drove his standardbreds before becoming a Thoroughbred trainer? That could be the case, but from my research, that's not apparent. Guts was a really nice pacer -- I remember that name, Meadowlands Pace winner, perhaps? -- but what else did he accomplish in Harness racing that brought him to the precipice of "genius?"
If he is indeed a "genius," please inform the NTRA ASAP. From his NTRA bio, a career highlight was Golden Doc A's 4th place finish in the 2008 Kentucky Oaks. Alright, if you had the superfecta, you might disagree with this post.
Speaking of Time finished 8th in the 2008 B.C. Ladies Classic. And if she had finished in the money, on what pedastal would Abrams currently rest with you?
I have no agenda here -- who could have an agenda when discussing Barry Abrams, anyway -- and I wish his horse well if she runs in both Breeders' Cup races, but the facts are the facts.
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He made a stallion out of Unusual Heat. Not just a stallion but a rousing success of a stallion that he claimed. A stallion that now stands for $20000 in CA! One with no Storm Cat or Mr P or AP Indy blood. That has been bred to cheap mares and has had simply made it despite pretty much no success at the sales but by siring runner after runner.
The guy won the Meadowlands Pace 6 years after starting his own stable.
He doesnt need to train for fancy outfits that hand him expensive horses. He makes lots of money in a game that virtually everybody else loses in.
Sounds like a pretty sharp guy to me.