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Originally Posted by King Glorious
These statements confuse me. What difference does it make who his sire and dam are once he's already shown he can do it? What difference does it make whether he won the race on class or credentials or even on good luck? He got it done and that's what matters. How will sticking to 10f make him any better of a stallion? If they ran him exclusivley at 12f or more for the rest of his career, would that lessen what he did at 8f and 10f? Would people forget those accomplisments? It wouldn't be a situation like Jazil, a horse that was nothing but a distance horse here and showed no speed at all. He's shown he can win a grade one at 8f so we know the speed is there if called upon.
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This industry is a money making industry. The big guns don't class it as a sport any longer. There is no patience amongst breeders, they love to breed speed. Of course it matters. As soon as a horse wins over 2400m these days people deem them to be a bit slow. It isn't the case, however, that fails to alter peoples opinion in the breeding industry.
Fact is, in the modern era, these horses make more each day during the breeding season than some do in a whole career. I'd love to say it isn't about the money, but it is.
I don't believe running in the Arc would give the horse any more credentials. Connections have said time and time again that he wouldn't want it soft. As much as track conditions shouldn't be an issue, we will never get away from them. Is there any point in prepping him specifically for the Arc, the ground comes up heavy and then he is forced to miss other Autumn races because he has been campaigned for that race in mind?
On another note, with Sariska beaten yesterday (probably another ground related issue) that could just well confirm how the three year old fillies are nothing more than a mediocre bunch this year.