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					Originally Posted by CSC
					
				 They're dreadful, no clocks in their heads and no punch down the lane either. Victor has given me good rides and I think he shouldn't be lumped in with these 2 turds , I'm going to throw in Husbands also, I thought his ride in the Plate was just dreadful, for a supposed top jock he has given TT the farthest trips in her 2 last races as Trackus will no doubt confirm.    Check out her races from Wdb, Keeneland, and SA, the worst luck of any horse running today. | 
	
 In my opinion not only should Victor be lumped in to the group, but he's the head turd. For some reason I always expect more from him and he constantly dissapoints me on a regular basis. I also have no problem with Flores and believe that you can find much bigger turds in that group than him.