Were lying or just incompetent. Its not a private club. I think that some are actually intimidated by teh fact that they can't just go on hysetrical rants over here Cajun. The other problem is that several of them(and one of them who claimed that is a major culprit) including two of my good friends really hastened the demise of that place. They talked about everything except horses. I mean, if you dont wanna talk horses then you really sholdnt be hanging around a horse racing messageboard. They turned it into a gossip palace complete with sordid tales form drunks and weirdos about their dialy tragedies. Sorry, nut Im not interested. The way this board is set up it has an off topic forum fro things not horse related. Thast they way it oughta be.