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Old 04-20-2009, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I'll quote myself earlier today:



I didn't complain about Bush's spending because it doesn't frankly bother me that much, inasmuch as we're talking about raw dollar amounts, even though it was clearly "too much" by your guys' standards. I'm a liberal, I'm pretty behind a great deal of government spending, so like I said, there would have been no reason for me to go out of my way to criticize the spending.

That's exactly why I never talked about it, because I didn't care that much...and guess what? I still don't care that much. It's ONLY relevant whether you guys that are complaining NOW were complaining back then when his spending was out of control...and you weren't.

I shouldn't be expected to complain about something that doesn't bother me, right? But you should be expected to complain when YOUR guy does the same thing you're mad about when OUR guy does, even if it's on a smaller scale. That's why it only comes up in response to your current complaints, because pointing out transparent hypocrisy is usually a pretty easy thing to show that people aren't being intellectually honest in a discussion.
Transparent hypocrisy? Because we didnt start threads about it we are hypocrites? That is rich. Let me ask you a question and to avoid being called a hypocrite answer honestly, would you have defended Bush's spending had we started a bunch of threads about it? You want to label those that disagree with your side as hypocrites when your labeling is as hypocritical as anything. Because fiscal conservatives like myself disagree with the spending habits of America's most liberal president ever we are hypocrites because we didn't bash Bush as loudly? Or IN YOUR OPINION do you think we are simply bashing him because he is a liberal? Why does everything that Obama or Congress does have to be attached to prior arguments about Bush?

Despite being labeled by Joey and you I am much more centrist than either of you ever dreamed about. As far as social issues there are a lot of conservative views that I disagree with. I am for stricter gun control. I am neither pro or anti abortion. I dont like the intrusion of religion in politics though I think altering of historical buildings with religious sayings is a bit over the top. I have no problem with gay marriage. But on economic issues I am very much conservative as is a great deal of America. Maybe not your version of America but the rest of the country outside of big cities. And that will ultimately be the downfall of your party, again.
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