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Originally Posted by philcski

not sure i agree, you need to be able to shape every shot differently on that course both off the tee and to hold the greens in the ideal position. doesn't really favor someone who shapes it one way or another. i've played it literally over a hundred times.

1st hole: fade tee, straight 2nd
2nd hole: draw tee, straight 2nd
3rd hole: draw
4th hole: draw tee, fade 2nd, pitch
5th hole: fade tee, draw 2nd
6th hole: straight, straight
7th hole: big fade tee, straight
8th hole: straight/fade
9th hole: big draw tee, straight
10th hole: straight tee, draw 2nd
11th hole: fade tee, straight 2nd
12th hole: high draw tee, straight 2nd
13th hole: high huge fade tee, straight 2nd (if they can reach in 2)
14th hole: used to be better to hit a fade but they reshaped the green, prob better to hit a high draw now
15th hole: straight, sky high draw
16th hole: fade, fade
17th hole: depends on the pin
18th hole: straight, straight



i didn't know what that meant. i like it

i think you will agree that a long hitter will win at bethpaige - kenny is in the top 10 % of long hitter on tour

most of the holes he can hit his draw , on number #1 there is room to start your ball to the right and bring it back , i realize it's a fade hole , but , it's not like you can't play a draw there

the 5th hole will be the hardest hole for him , it might be the hardest par 4 in the world when the wind is blowing

he can make #13 a 3 shot par 5 - no issue there

11 and 16 allow the player to hit any shot off the tee , they are jsut long striaght holes

unless there have been a lot of changes since i have been on the course last , but i don't think there is much room to move the holes around that much

the other trillinghast course where thye had the open in ny (winged foot) is a lot tighter and the doglegs are a lot sharper and require more of a demand to turn your tee shots both ways , bethpaige has always played longer in my opinion