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Old 02-08-2009, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
How was what the Celtics did the weakest thing you've ever seen? Did you miss seeing the Lakers sign Karl Malone and Gary Payton in an attempt to win after their three-peat was ended. Both of them took pay cuts. I believe one of them played for the veteran's exception. And when Garnett joined the Celtics, they hadn't yet made the trade for Ray Allen I don't believe. So calling them stacked is really overrating what they were.
Nah, Ray was on the Celts already when KG was traded. Doesn't matter. It's a point lost on Pants that it's an admirable thing to sacrifice scoring and star treatment in order to win. Malone and Payton ostensibly wanted to do the same thing, but they couldn't win because everyone on that team still wanted to be a star. They got to the Finals based on talent, but they crumbled against a better TEAM.

Doc actually had a good quote about Ray that sums up the difference for me between the '04 Lakers and the '08 Celtics.

"I hear so many times guys say they want to win a championship, I want to be a winner, but what they're really saying is they want to win so long as it's comfortable for them,'' Rivers said. "You don't win by being comfortable. You win by doing things out of your comfort zone to make the team better, and Ray epitomizes that to me. He's completely come out of his comfort zone to fit into this team to make us better, and Ray has proved that he's a champion because he's willing to do that.''
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