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Originally Posted by King Glorious

The names on the races don't make the races though. If your competition sucked, it sucked. Since when were the JCGC and Woodward not big enough? None of these races are good races just because the name says they are. The Haskell was no better than the Woodward. The Derby and Preakness were no better than Dubai and the JCGC. The Florida Derby was no better than the Foster.

I was just talking with someone and told them that I come from the school of thought that says you have to knock out the champ. If you let it come down to a decision against the champ, you lose. Well, BB didn't knock out the champ on any scorecard. The only thing that could be said is that he tied him on a couple.

Quality of races won-draw.
Number of grade ones-draw.
Speed figures-Curlin by a lot.

I'd even give Curlin the edge in quality of competition faced. Wanderin Boy, Well Armed, and AP Arrow.....they aren't exactly a who's who of racing. But I'd take them in a landslide over Coal Play, Smooth Air, Eight Belles, Denis of Cork, Anak Nakal, and Tomcito.

Dubai doesnt count. speed figures are now part of the process? You just used AP Arrow in a positive way. I give up. Andy is right. If this qualifies as a good thing than it simply isnt worth trying.