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Old 09-11-2008, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I hear you Miraja. I used Wikipedia because that is what Cajungator originally posted in describing Obama as a socialist. I agree with her-many of Obama's policies are socialist in nature.

So you don't like Wikipedia. Thats fine. How about these:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...20Encyclopedia

or

how about the DICTIONARY? I would say that is reliable. here is the link:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods



The dictionary kind of says that I am right. Unless I am missing something.

If you still disagree, can you post some support to what you are saying besides "trust me" and "i assure you". I dont mean to be snotty in this case (most of the time i do) but i am anxious to see how you can actually explain that the Fed's policies stated above ARENT socialist.
First of all let me say that this is probably the most boring discussion I have ever been involved in on this site.

But secondly, let me keep this boring conversation going a bit longer. It seems like your argument breaks down like this:
1) Socialists advocate increasing the size and power of the government.
2) The Bush administration has increased the size and power of the government.
Therefore.....George W. Bush is a socialist.
That is flawed logic, and I think an analogy from the world of horse racing might illustrate why:
1) Good racehorses win horseraces.
2) Pepper's Pride wins horseraces.
By your logic this would mean that Pepper's Pride is a good racehorse.....which of course, she is not.
Just because two things share common characteristics does not mean they are the same thing.

If you really are interested in learning about socialism, I would suggest reading either Lichtheim's The Origins of Socialism, or perhaps, Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy (the name of the author on this one escapes me at the moment). Both books are a bit dated at this point (I think they were both written in the 70s) but I had to read them a few years ago and they both do a pretty good job of explaining what distinguishes socialism from other political/economic philosophies.
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