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Originally Posted by miraja2
First of all, you are off to a very bad start in using wikipedia as your source. It has zero credibility. Secondly, I assure you that no serious academic would ever categorize George W. Bush as a socialist. He's not even close.
If you just want to use pop-culture definitions of serious terms and quote sources like wikipedia instead of analyzing legitimate sources I guess that's okay.....but trust me, anybody that actually HAS "read up on socialism" understands that there is a HUGE difference between neoliberalism and socialism.
Am I shocked to hear that some Republicans in Washington call Bush "red George." Not at all. Since when do they understand anything about political philosophies?  Again he has unquestionably grown the welfare state considerably, but trust me, that doesn't make him a socialist.
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I hear you Miraja. I used Wikipedia because that is what Cajungator originally posted in describing Obama as a socialist. I agree with her-many of Obama's policies are socialist in nature.
So you don't like Wikipedia. Thats fine. How about these:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...20Encyclopedia
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how about the DICTIONARY? I would say that is reliable. here is the link:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
The dictionary kind of says that I am right. Unless I am missing something.
If you still disagree, can you post some support to what you are saying besides "trust me" and "i assure you". I dont mean to be snotty in this case (most of the time i do) but i am anxious to see how you can actually explain that the Fed's policies stated above ARENT socialist.