[Gander]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

These lists always make for great banter and it was brave of you to throw this out there.

A couple of things I disagree with:

1. Where is Tiznow? Horse wins the super derby, goodwood and beats a really good BC Classic field (giants causeway, captain steve, lemon drop kid, albert the great, golden missile, fusaichi pegasus) and runs a 119 beyer in the fall of his 3 year old year. Surely he was more accomplished than half of this list. Should have him on there. I cant believe I left out a horse I actually cashed a huge ticket on (2nd year he won the Classic)

2. No Fusaichi Pegasus and you have Barbaro? Fupeg won san felipe, wood, derby and jerome and was second in the preakness. Barbaro won fla and ky derby. Surely fupeg was the more accomplished horse. I had Fu Peg on there but decided to take him out. I actually replaced him with Barbaro. Sorry, he lost to Red Bullet and then never did anything else.

3. How about War Emblem? wins two third of the crown along with illinois and haskell. Was that not more than Monarchos? Yes it was more than Monarchos, but I thought he got away with a theft job in the Derby and just wasnt that impressed. But I cant fault you for thinking he belongs. Monarchos Derby was one of the most impressive Derby wins in recent history imo

4. How was Smarty Jones's ky derby more impressive than his Preakness? The derby was a procession around a sloppy track where speed held enough to have lion heart complete the exacta. The Preakness was on a deep, dry and sandy track where he obliterated his foes in one of the best performances in a classic i have ever seen. Yes, I stand corrected. I just watched both races, both very impressive. He would have won the Derby on a dry track too, but I get your point.


Dont take me wrong Gander. Again, it takes guts to put up a list like this. I just disagree on a couple of things.

Cheers.

Thanks. Side note- I feel kind of bad for having Empire Maker on there and not my guy Funny Cide. I couldnt include both and they were 2-2 in their head to head battles. Funny Cide won 2/3rd of the Triple Crown and the most important race beating his nemesis. You can argue Empire Maker wasnt 100% in the Derby but you can also argue that the mud played a huge role in Funny Cide's demise at the Belmont.