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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
As long as this guy is around, then the A's can't get to the World Series. They could get to the playoffs, but not to the World Series. You say who picked them to win anything this year? I picked them to win their division. They are 5 out of the division, and 3 1/2 out of the Wild Card. They are 8 games above .500. I think it's too early to toss in the towel. Your whole fck the fans thing is great if these moves ever pay off. They don't. They just keep them decent, but never above that. What you're really saying is that A's fans are suckers for coming out, because this whore keeps getting rid of his good players. I'm in the middle. You support extremes routinely. I was against the Andruw singing because it was obvious he had lost ability, and there was zero value paying him that to hit .220( as we see he can't even do that.) I also am against the opposite extreme of simply never wanting to pay good players. The Cubs and Cards are getting value for their money. The Dodgers and Yankees don't get value for their money, and that's why they are where they are at. Boston is paying an awful lot, and getting their moneysworth, but they also are very lucky this century( with free agents.) I don't know what you're talking about when you say they would get nothing for Harden (if he got hurt.) He has given them their moneysworth. They are paying him a low 4-5 million. That's inexpensive enough that they should of let him play until the middle of next season before cashing out like whores. I don't think you value fans much, and maybe that's the reason Oakland has the problems with finances that they do. There are only so many people willing to be masochists. That's what an A's fan would have to be. Yea, so what if Harden got hurt? It's not like they got anything for him. You're missing that part. The Gallagher is not getting past 5-6 innings, and routinely throws 111-120 in those short amount of innings. Means he has not got the accuracy he needs to get it done. For this they give up Harden n' Gaudin? Gaudin wasn't mop up in the summer of 2006. He is gunna help the Cubs.
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Your arguement is lame. Beane is selling the guy while he is healthy and getting back a good prospect in Gallagher. Gallagher is 22. Do you know how many 22 year olds are pitching in the majors and doing well? About 5. Gallagher has neither a high walk rate or high BA against. How many innings should he be pitching. He was 27-12 in the minors with a 2.70 era as a 18-21 year old. he has never had a high walk rate. There is no guarantees that he will become John Danks next year but thats what happens with young pitchers.
"So what if he gets hurt?" That makes you a great GM...The guy ALWAYS gets hurt. He has pitched one complete season out of 6 seasons. he is a ticking time bomb. They get a possible number 3 or 2 starter who is 22 and Murton who may still be ok for a guy who the last 3 years has started 25 games and a mop up guy. That just doesnt seem too bad. As a matter of fact there is a better chance of those 2 guys helping the A's than the other 2 did. Gaudin was a mop up man for a reason. Because the A's have a bunch of pitchers that are better than him. Gallagher's best may never be equal to Harden's best but there is a strong chance that we dont see much of Harden's best.
I said that the signing of Jones by the Dodgers was a good move because they didnt have to sign him long term. He was terrible and got hurt. At least they dont have to pay him past next year. It was still an acceptable risk.