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Old 08-10-2006, 04:00 AM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Rupert, Im really starting to question your knowledge on the So Cal racing scene. First of all, Jon Court really didnt get the first or even second call on Leroidsdeanimaux. It was a pick up mount! Leroids ran on KYD day 2004 at Hollywood and most of the other good jocks were either in Kentucky or were already committed. Frankel hardly knew at the time that Leroids was even close to his best. Court rode him well so he left him on.

When your asking your "friend" Mandella about Kent, why dont you ask him about when Kent use to ride first call for him? Yeah, they usually just make the "sufficient" jocks first call riders. As a matter of fact, why dont you ask Drysdale why Kent was first call for so many years. Ask Cassidy or mel stute as well. Ask Bob Hess, Jr. Ask Ted West. Ask Craig lewis. Why were so many of these guys fooled for so long.

Kent's riding has never been the question. If that were the case, why would his winning pct and in the money pct have always been so high? can you dispute that?

Another article just in case you didnt know. There is a book out called "ride of their lives". Check it out.
What happened with Lerodesanimaux is not uncommon. That type of thing happens all the time. A trainer may put a lesser jock on a great horse before the horse becomes a star. The lesser jock has success on the horse and he keeps the mount. Other times a top jock may have a commitment and may not be able to travel to ride a horse. A lesser jock is willing to travel and he rides the horse to victory and keeps the mount. There are all kinds of scenarios as to how a mediocre jock can end up with the mount on a great horse from a top trainer who is not even a huge fan of that particular jock.

Anyway, I'm getting tired of this debate. It's a one-way debate. I answer all of your questions but you don't answer mine. You still haven't answered the simplest and most obvious question: Why would Desormeaux have a reputation of being lazy and not willing to ride cheap horses if he was out there every morning working his butt off and telling trainers that he is happy to ride cheap horses? That doesn't make any sense.

I don't remember whether Desormeaux ever was riding first-call for Mandella. I'll have to look into that. Even if he was, different trainers have different tastes in jockeys. Solis has ridden first-call for Mandella. I don't care. Solis was not and never will be in the league of Stevens, Bailey, McCarron, P Val, Pincay, Delahoussaye, Espinoza, etc.

By the way, I hardly think Mel Stute is a good trainer. If you think so then we have obviously have completely different tastes in trainers. I hardly consider Craig Lewis a good trainer. Bob Hess and Ted West are respectable. Drysdale is obviously a good trainer.

By the way, are you suggesting that Desormeaux was so lazy that he wouldn't even work horses for Drysdale in the morning? Are you suggesting that Desormeax was rude to Drysdale or gave him an attitude? I don't know for a fact that this didn't happen, but I highly doubt it. I highly doubt Desormeaux was giving an attitude to the top trainers, the trainers that he wanted to ride for.
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