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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
big brown 4-1 or higher, good luck on that one. i can't bet him even if he wins, which i think he can't. if pyro is anything over 6-1 jump all over it ! classic derby , the horse loses the prep only to come back and win at good odds. want me to start naming all the ones that have done it before. thunder gulch, funnycide, unbridled, giacomo, street sense, manarchos , and thats off the top of my head, in recent memory. didn't secretariat lose the wood , oh yeah he did! since when is a horses form determined by one race , especially when there is no need to win. the last race was a walk in the park on poly crap,i'm hoping he is over 10-1 !
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Big difference in Pyro's awful Blue Grass and Funny Cide and Monarchos' Wood Memorials. Neither of those two won it, but both very respectable and obviously got a lot out of their efforts. Giacomo ran good in the SA Derby, I think it was a hard charging 3rd in a very flukey race where I think Buzzards Bay won. Street Sense ran very well in the Blue Grass losing by a head bob to Dominican in his first try on the junk.
Pryo in one word was awful. I dont think he got much out of it and this places added pressure on the trainer to get him extra fit off just workouts. Not a real good plan.