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Old 08-03-2006, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Noone with a brain disses Beyer the man. Dissing his figs is another story.
Beyer basically helped form my love of the game with his first book Picking Winners, an absolute classic. The Winning Horseplayer was equally as good. You are talking about a guy who basically helped create modern handicapping as we know it with his emphasis on players learning to look for biases, trips, and making figures. He also has made plenty of his own scores and loves the game. Hes actually revolutioned the game.
The problem with his figs is multifaceted. The sheets, once a private thing, are now mass marketed and outperform his numbers by a mile. But the biggest problem I have is that he has allowed the human element creep way too far into the process. His original take on making figs as I understood it in the books was to just let the mathematical formula make them and then draw your own conclusions about the how and why they were achieved. He now allows his associates to interject their opinions into a figure, basically making them a product of someone's opinion. They speak in articles of having them "make sense". Well horses races don't always make sense. Sometimes horses freak out or run clunkers. The fiasco on Summit of Speed day where they assigned two horses who ran an hour apart on the same track at the same distance a ten point different fig was the final straw. As it turned out the sheets guys got it right. Valid Video who was adjusted down came back and won the grade one Kings Bishop. Shake You down who was adjusted up came back horribly and lost his next race at the Spa as a heavy chalk. It was basically the explanation of his associate that by some miracle the track slowed down in an hour despite the lack of weather changes.
If they just printed the raw number they come up with the math players would be better served. And don't even get me started on Shadow Caster.
..........dude, you memory is ****ing unreal.....
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