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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You want the right to act like a dog in rare cases? Right? I don't want to be like them at all.If you torture ,then they've succeeded in making you like them.This is why we have so much trouble now(too many people think it's o.k. to cheat,steal,and lie once in a while.)Multiply that by 300 million people,and you have got the reason for a lot of our present day problems.Take, for instance, the guy who (I guess) threw a puppy off a cliff(I didn't watch it,so you tell me.) Is it o.k. if he just does that one time? In a rare case? There are a lot of people with sick tendencies.Do you really want to give out the message that it's o.k. to do evil stuff once in a while? To torture once in a while? To kill a cat once in a while? Huh? I don't. Hey we have very good communication systems.One of the best ways to stop this scum is to put their evil on full display as often as possible,and let them know what we really do think of them.We don't do that.We fear being called anti-Islamic,or racist,or whatever.That's what is the problem.If you constantly show young people the stuff these people do to innocent people,then this scum will be very interested.They are very interested in how they are viewed around the world.Show them for what they are.Put it on MTV.Constantly show THIS SCUM ACTING LIKE SCUM.They won't like it.They don't have the communication systems here to compete with us.All they can do is stop acting like scum.We are good at entertainment systems,and communuication systems.We beat them at this.Start using it.Stop being scared about upsetting Moslems.That doesn't work.Show everybody what Moslems are doing to innocent people,and let Moslems change their own people.They are only going to change if they have a huge microscope showing them exactly as they are. That will be much more useful than torture,but we can't complain about them being scum if we allow GEEDUBBYA etc. to act like scum.
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So you are saying you would
not use
it, even if it had the chance of saving your
city from being blown up? And then you would
be able to explain to all the families that you
could have, but did not...
And they would say," but it might have worked" and
you would lie and say "it had no chance to help save
lives"?
A very difficult decision had to be made in WWII
about Japan. It is still being debated today.
I happen to think it was horrible but a correct
decision. I dont think anybody WANTED to do
this, the felt they had to. There is a difference.
Scuds we all make decisions in our lives that
go against our ethical values. We all do. We
rationalize and huff and puff but we all do.
We fight the temptation but it happens.
You know you have. You have acted like
a dog in rare cases and so have I. Not that
we have killed anyone or tortured anyone,
but we have all crossed the line in some way
meaningful way to us (maybe not to anyone else).
I am not Jesus and I dont think you are.
So cut the high and mighty.
If this technique can, under unique circumstances,
give the country a means of saving the lives of
innocent people right now, I cant see taking it completely off
the table. Hopefully we research ways to come up
with other techniques. If what I heard on NPR is all wrong,
then fine. But it was clearly stated that this technique
can in certain cases give accurate information quickly.
Not like other techniques. This is what I understand.