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Originally Posted by pgardn
I did not know this, but I know of other situations that back your case that are horrible. I also know a lot of cases I have not mentioned that support my basic premise. On the whole, we TRY to do the right thing.
My Uncle (my father's Identical twin) was in the foreign service all my life (mostly in Southeast Asia during the tumultuous 60's and 70's, Indonesia later) and was Ambassador to New Guinea as a career man. Hardly a giant post, and this in no way makes me an expert. But he has made it clear that we attempt to do the right thing even though politics gets in the way as always. I have peppered him with examples that dal. is peppering me with. He is also horrified about our situation in Iraq. He is not aligned with a political party, but I think he might be a little on the liberal side.
From most of the history I know, "we" have made some horrible decisions but have also acted in a manner that does not in anyway help us financially or politically and is totally on the side of human rights.
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I dont disagree with this. If it DOES NOT hurt us politically, we have and will help out. I cant cite any cases right now but im sure there have been some.
I just think this whole "spread democracy in the middle east" thing is the biggest load of s h i t a US govt has ever tried to perpetrate on the world and it own people. We arent in Iraq to "spread democracy". We arent there to "liberate people". If democracry indeed spreads and people are liberated then that is great but it is not even close to the main objective, an objective that has been spun and changed multiple times since the start of the iraqi war.