[Danzig]

there was a 'girl' who posted here some time ago who posted pics of 'herself'. so much for that.

as for the war for oil bs, i think that's an oversimplification. lots of places have oil, but very few also invaded an ally, moved their forces to possibly invade a second ally, and lobbed missiles at a third ally. iraq was a threat to our nations security, and to our allies security. the govt we elected decided to go back and finish things up- i have no problem with that at all. '91 wasn't finished. the u.n. showed that they were even more incompetent then most thought originally, saddam thumbed his nose at everything he agreed to for the original cease fire, and the previous, democratic admin was as belligerent toward iraq as the republican admin that followed. that whole drama took a decade to come to fruition.

as to how your passive words are going to keep soldiers alive, i don't know. my son was a volunteer, who willingly joined. he knows what that entails. if his govt tells him to go, he does. and there will always be naysayers, just like with any other issue. there's always more than one side.

i'm all for protection of civil rights, as i've stated elsewhere. repeatedly.
that's my point, there are more issues than just the war, which has taken a decided turn for the better.

as for mccain saying we may be there 100 years, we may be. just like we've been in japan for the last 60, as well as germany.

i just don't like it when i see someone give more benefit of the doubt to ANYONE elsewhere, but not to their own country. i don't follow blindly, but nor do i feel that our president, our congress, is full of monstrous beings who lie, cheat and steal no matter the cause.
ineptitude, sure. mistakes, no doubt. but don't be extreme about it. i personally don't care for extremes. there's no room for discussion, no room to wiggle.