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Old 12-24-2007, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnanimous
Just to let you know, NYRA is not racing ("nyra is and allways will be the most important racing in the country"). NYRA is just the group that runs racing. Any idiot could run NY racing. The amount of money wagered in NY is what makes NY racing and this is primarily because incomes are higher and handle means nothing if you just keep losing money like NYRA does.

Also, CA racing is great all year long. In NY you have Aqueduct which is some of the worst racing in the country. It is a conveyor belt and is riddled with corruption. I would say Saratoga is the best meet, but not because of NYRA. Belmont is probably the 4th best meet. So NY racing is excellent but to say it is the best is pushing it. It is the best if you take out Aqueduct but last I checked Aqueduct still exists.

As for the soap opera in NY, if the corrupt NYRA and corrupt politicians would just give NYRA a 5 year deal it would be fine.

But please explain to me why a group with a past full of corruption and a present with bankruptcy after bankrupcy deserves a 30 year deal.
Don't have time to answer this except to say produce your corruption claims. Besides an incident of a handful of ticket clerks cheating IRS, what "past full of corruption" are you refering to? Specifics... Tired of the broad brush bullsh-t.

Maybe you don't anything about the training community in NY and have no idea that a certain percentage of NY trainers stay in NY in the winter and make the majority of their annual income at Aqueduct while the big outfits who dominate at Belmont and Saratoga are in Florida. But maybe you don't think everyone deserves to eat.

5 years? You obviously no little about how contracts work and how subcontractors work. The contracts that NYRA will engage with people like Centerplate to run the foodservice need to be a minimum of 10 years long and typically 15, so that the subcontractor can recoup their investment in maintaining and upgrading the facilities. But maybe you think that a subcontractor like Centerplate should install $130,000 dishwashing upgrades at Saratoga for free, like they did in 2006, or operate three enormous foodservice operations at three different plants at a loss.

Regarding the bancruptcy, you clearly have no understanding of what has transpired in this situation the last several years or the structure of the system under which racing in NY operates. I don't have time to explain it to you now, and something tells me it wouldn't be worth the effort.
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