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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
The Gold Cup was not on polytrack, it was cushion track.
Your description of the racing at SA (no one winning from near the pace, sprinters getting overtaken by turf horses) is not accurate at all. just look at yesterdays route races.
Runforthemoneybaby, no turf experience and came from two lengths behind
RomanceisDiane, no turf experience and wins wire to wire.
Sierra Sunset, no turf experience and raced within a length of the pace.
Bold Chieftain, some turf background, came from 3 lengths back.
I don't think Lava Mans issues have a lot to do with the synthetics, just look at his turf race in the Oak Tree mile, that was also a subpar effort, at least as bad as his Pac Classic, maybe worse. With the form he had last year and early this year he would have crushed the field yesterday, even on cushion track.
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thanks I have to proof read lest I will write in a verbal style and call everything "polytrack" as if I was calling a brand of "puffs" tissue a kleenex...
I am familiar with all the major tracks who use synthetic and each of their specific nuances, other than PID(except to note the inflation@PID)
they are all synthetic-turf, that have replaced a main dirt track , and they all have their specific characteristics.
for example a 6furlong wire-to-wire horse at Keeneland can do the same in Arlington , but not necessarily vice versa.
A horse can save ground and win in Hollywood , but in Woodbine he will eat dust(actually clog his trachea with dust).
etc.....
as far as debating that I don't know what I am talking about with Lava Man's specific running style and how well the different synthetic tracks suit it -
- It's up to you to figure that out. I am not going to sit here and convince you that a route on polytrack is averse to Lava Mans style or how a .10 superfecta changes the dynamics of the market. Either you see it one way or another. Either you think one thing or another. It doesn't make me a penny or give me any satisfaction , and 99% of the time it falls on deaf ears. Come to you own conclusions, and it seems like you have an opinion , and I don't wish to challenge your opinion.
If you want to change it into a debate over generalities like "no one wins near the pace" or "turf horses overtake sprinters" it isn't something I am interested in. I am not really interested in any debate period.
The game interests me, I put my time in and I answer my own questions. The internet is a great place where people who love the game, or the sport, or the animals can share their opinions.
back on topic - my opionion is that I feel Lava Man is proven to be resiliant, I think he belongs in moderate class turf routes only. A lot of money for that in California, as Graded races or big purses are at times "moderate-quality". Give him 2-3 months and a nuclear scan and bring him back in 2008.