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Old 07-17-2006, 11:42 PM
ArlJim78 ArlJim78 is offline
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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
"Maybe it’s you who needs to learn a bit more on evaluating horses when they race against weak fields. I was the one who wasn’t fooled by his wins over weak fields. Frankly this is so obvious I’m surprised that it is taking people so long to catch on."
RP "As I said before, I have no problem judging a horse's ability even off a maiden win. Practically every horse I have bought or have tried to buy privately was off a race where they pretty much beat nobody. I usually don't buy horses after they have won a stakes race. I usually buy horses off a maiden win and sometimes an allowance win. It's the way the horse moves that is the most important thing. I don't care who is behind them. There doesn't have to be anyone behind them. As I told you before, I can judge a horse's ability from watching them work alone. At the 2 year old sales, the horses don't work in company. They usually work either an 1/8th of a mile or a 1/4 of a mile alone. If I didn't have a great eye, people wouldn't fly me all over the country on private jets to pick out horses for them. My eye is as good as anyone's in the business. I don't think anyone's batting average is higher than mine when it comes to picking out huge winners to buy. I tried to buy both Roses in May and English Channel before either of them had ever won a stakes race. We tried to buy Wild Fit off of her maiden win. We were offering huge amounts of money for these horses too. We offered $800,000 for Wild Fit off her maiden win. We offered $700,000 for English Channel off an allowance win and $1 million for Roses in May off an allowance win. These horses beat nobody in the races I tried to buy them off, yet we had no problem offering huge money for these horses because I was extremely confident in the ability off all three of these horses. I didn't look at any pace figures either. I am one of the only people in the business who gets a free 10% ownership in every horse I select. It must be beacuse I'm a nice guy.[/quote]

Not necessary to trot out your resume for me, it's tacky and also it doesn't mean that I'm not correct about LITF. When someone resorts to the resume I translate it to mean "I'm all out of arguements but look how great I am at these other things so I just have to be right." I'm not sure how all the details about your picking out young horses to purchase is relavent. I'm sure you're good at what you do.
I only question how good you are at handicapping sprint races because you do not seem able to even entertain the idea that LITF was going to have big trouble winning any G1 sprints against older horses. I've given you all kinds of reasons to demonstrate why this is, but honestly I figured it out mainly by watching him race. Great sprinters have to do things to win the tough races that LITF has never shown he can do. He has a rather one-dimensional style.
The reasoning you have offered is that he was possibly tired from the traveling and/or didn't fire. You also didn't respond to my last post which showed that he actually really did fire in recent races and consequently slowed down late. I guess that's when you decided to unfurl your resume.

I'll tell you what, if LITF does continue to race in sprints I will inform you before the race if he will fire or not. Won't that make me one of the greatest handicappers in history if I can predict correctly if a horse will fire or not?!
Maybe they'll start flying me around on private jets!! lol

Last edited by ArlJim78 : 07-17-2006 at 11:46 PM.
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