well to be honest, they still have a horse in Discreet Cat who could turn out better than both. I think they've done a tremendous job with him as they were very good not to rush him into the Derby Trail and he showed what he could do last year with some magnificent races. He looks like quite a fragile horse and not many other organisations would have given him the time required to fulfill his potential and he would have retired / been injured prematurely. Sure things havent gone spot on this year, but there is certainly plenty of racing left for him and I hope he improves on last years figures and shows what a superstar he is.
Ill try not to comment on the other stuff as its been discussed quite a bit here already..
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