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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
No one called silver train "the best sprinter in the country" and certainly no one ever said that the train was an all time great. When the train lost, there werent a million excuses- he just lost.
There wasnt a tenth of the hype surrounding any of the horses in that race compared to LITF. Not a tenth. Based on the hype, he should have spanked those horses regardless of the excuses.
Quit trying to talk around the point here. The point is that he was vastly overrated. Can you actually disagree with that?
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No, I really don't think he was overrated. What he did last year was pretty remarkable. It's tough for sprinters to stay in form for long periods. Sprinters run so fast that it's hard to keep them sound. This horse was being shipped all over the place running in gradedrace after graded race and he kept winning. I'm not a big speed figure guy and I did not see his first two careeer races. They gave him huge numbers in those races and since I had not seen the races, I was very skeptical. Then he went down to Gulfstream and ran against some pretty good horses and won easily. I was still somewhat skeptical because Gulfstream seemed a little like Keeneland to me at times. It seemed like there was a speed bias there and it also seemed like some horses didn't handle the track. Then he won at Gulfstream again but I was still somewhat skeptical because it was Gulfstream. Then he went to New York and won a grade III race easily in a very fast time. Then he went to Golden Gate and won by 10 in 1:07 1/5. Then he won a grade II in New York, followed by a grade II in Florida, followed by a grade I in New York. Then he beat older horses at Bay Meadows in 1:08. In addition, he looked really good doing it in most of these races. That's the most important thing to me. I ca make a pretty good judgement of a horse's ability even if they beat nobody. Their stride is the most impotant thing. I thought that Roses in May looked like one of the best horses I'd seen in years based on an allowance win. High Fly was just the opposite. He was winning, but he looked awful doing it. He had a really bad way of moving and he was really sore. When you're in this business, you will never make any money buying horses or betting on horses, if you don't see a horse's potential until he beats the best horses in a big race. In the case of LITF, it didn't take a genuis to figure out he was a really good horse after he won 10 races in a row at multiple tracks including 5 graded races. It wasn't just who he was beating. It was the way he was moving(his stride), it was the margin of victory, and it was the huge numbers he was running. He was definitely the real deal.