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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I don't have to go a long way back..... his run at Ascot aside, he's been first or 2nd in his last 8 starts.
He's a damned good and constantly overlooked horse and i hope he destroys the field and the others hear your "whooosh".
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Yes, he has finished 1st or second, but in MUCH weaker races. Have you even looked at the form or just the figures by his name?
After his Prix Jean Prat win he finished a long way behind Laverock in another group one, and that is hardly form to suggest he will be winning this. After that he dropped to Gr3 company, and he was only second, he was then dropped further in grade, down to listed level and was beaten again at Evens.
Then he ran in two dreadful races worth only £9,000 together! He won them both, which he should have done.
He then went onto finish second behind Racinger (who he then beat at Ascot), and Racinger has been fairly disappointing in his two starts in England.
Turtle Bowl then was blown away by Manduro (getting beaten 5 lengths) on his last start before showing a HUGE improvement at Royal Ascot, which at the moment does look to be a fluke.
This the Racing Post Analysis of the race of Turtle Bowl after Manduro beat him:
"Turtle Bowl had won another weak Group 1 and his form had been of a much lesser level on softer ground this season. He moved up to track the winner into the straight but could not live with him in the closing stages and just what he achieved in holding off the disappointing Stormy River for second is questionable."
Sure, Turtle Bowl is a consistant horse, and with only six runners in the race on Sunday i expect him to hit the board again, but i wouldn't say he was "constantly overlooked". He just isn't up to good gr1 standard. He is consistant at a lower level of racing.
If Manduro doesn't run to his ability for whatever reason, Turtle Bowl may well pick up the pieces, but i cannot see him beating Manduro.