Kev manchu Prince looks awfully slow and hasn't beaten anything. If I was going to try to beat Kip I would stick with Roman Dynasty. His last was better than it looked. Hung 3 wide in 3rd chasing that wicked pace in his first grass start, he went back to 6th place and then rerallied for 4th. That race and pace were far more strenuous than anything that he had ever encountered before and was teh kind of race(hung wide chasing wicked pace, dropped bac, rerallied) that will really get to the bottom of a horse and tighten him up. Hes by far the value play for gimmicks.