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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
maybe our ancestors didn't have the right to do what they did.
Again all I am asking is what do you feel that means right NOW. What should we do? Because they were greedy and took over this land we should do what? give it back? surrender? what?
Its like you are saying we owe a decent life and employment to anyone in the world who wants to live here because of some injustice from years ago. I don't get your point because you said we need to have control, but how do you begin to take control of anything when the border is wide open.
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Arljim,
Wow! I just read back through this thread as I had to deal with the horses,
and while I was away, I think Somerfrost saw the point I was trying to make.
And no, Brian, it's not ludicrous to compare history with current events.
Human nature remains constant.
So back to some of your questions Jim.
There is no way that the Native Americans will be given back what they previously ahd taken from them, so that's agreed.
Regarding the creation of a "decent life and employment", well, you might disagree with me, but others have come here for exactly those reasons.
When the potatoes failed, the Irish came, Germans escaping harsh living conditions, Italians seeking better, Jews fearing for their lives...on and on.
There are too many nationalities that come to mind to list them all, and they all brought something to this country. That's what makes this a GREAT country.
I grew up on the Jersey side of the Hudson where I could look everyday at the beautiful Lady holding her welcoming torch outstreched to the world.
We all are no worse for the promise she held, and still does, to those that wish to work hard and create a better life for themselves and their families.
Ok, I agree that there should be a process for people that wish to enter this country. I have no debate on that. I wish for all to be "legal".
Regarding the "open border", I really don't know the solution.
Seriously, I think NAFTA did a lot to lower the standard of living for Mexicans and others that live to our south. Yet again, like any "human nature", if someone could look over "there" and see that life is a lot better than over "here", what choice would you make?
Yes, I agree there should be control. No need to debate that.
What do we do with the 12 million "illegals" that are already within the country? I think there should be a process wherein they can "earn" citizenship. I'll let the "statesmen" work those conditions out.
One last point....if the fear is "terrorism", and this is just my humble opinion, I don't think it will come across the southern border. Major ports on the East coast are wide open, chemical plants, nuclear facilities, and transportation systems are within easy reach. Last I heard, less than 5% of imported containers were even inspected by customs at Port Newark. I haven't checked on updates within the past eight months, so don't hold that percentage as solid. Suffice to say, we've been lucky. Very lucky.
I'm open to your ideas on what we should do.