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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I'm being honest here, i cannot follow your points. The best I can make out is that you are saying the problem is that we are not welcoming what you call immigrants, there is plenty here, we should welcome them all and share and plant crops together and have a feast.
No wall, cause walls don't work. Do we even need to bother patroling the border? I guess not because that wouldn't be very nice. If we're going to share with 12 million, we may as well share with the rest of them. Sure come on over and somehow we'll work things out.
The problem as I see it is that in effect we are already doing way to much of what you're suggesting, we are way too lax and like I said before our country is morphing into something we can't control.
Question, why stop with the southern border? Why don't we extend the sharing to all nations? After all there is plenty here for all. No need for documents after all everyone is just an immigrant of sorts.
A country that does not have borders is no longer a country. Having a border means you must know who is coming and going. thats not mean its just a fact.
Have you ever tried to get into another country with no documents, claiming just to be a peaceful immigrant wanting to find work and share? try it sometime, any country, and let me know how warmly you are recieved and how tasty was the feast.
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I think one point that DTS made is that one man's illegal alien is another's pilgrim. There is a quote from Spike in BTVS that I paraphrase here: "You had better weapons, you slaughtered them and took their land, that's what nations do". The point being that when viewed in historical context, our "right" to this land came at the end of a bloody sword and to demonize people who come now in ways we see as "illegal" is, philosophically hypocritical. That's not to say we should open the doors to everybody..we need order and that IS the role of government. Still, the majority of these folks are honest and hardworking folks simply looking for a better life...not unlike our ancestors. We need answers, but pointing at the poor is always an effective strategy for the wealthy and powerful. Both ends of the political spectrum are involved in this mess...the "liberals" who are concerned about the welfare of these poor folks (and their votes) and the wealthy who have economic concerns (read: employ them). We sure don't need walls, we need a fair way of dealing with folks who are here and a coordinated effort with the Mexican government.