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Originally Posted by hockey2315
I may be exaggerating slightly, but not much. . .
SNS beat nobody in the Illinois Derby, did nothing in the KY derby and then ran second in the preakness when it fell apart. . . He still gets pounded down to odds on in races where he has no chance to win- he wasn't winning the races at GP and there was NO way he was beating Master Command (who may have been favored over him in the race @ HAW). . . People still think highly of him because of all the buzz he got before the derby, and in my opinion, the hype is completely unwarranted. . . He's probably a G3 caliber horse, but come on- the race today wasn't a G3 caliber race. . . The checks SNS' connections have cashed have been in joke races like this- so your earnings argument has a flaw. . .
I won't get too in-depth about Bob and John. . . He beat terribly weak fields out west and got very luck that the Wood came up sloppy because he actually shows some semblance of talent in the slop. . . Since then he's been cashing checks in little, weak fields that don't deserve the purses or grades that they've gotten. . .
Maybe I'm being too hard on these horses. . . Part of my problem is that there are actually races out there like this one that carry graded status and big purses. . . Bob and John doesn't deserve a G3 win and his share of 388k for beating 3 other horses on a sloppy track today. . .
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The connections of these horses weren't banning people from entering the Lone Star Derby. It is a 400 grand race and if people don't want to bring there horses they don't have to. When SNS runs in Laurel who should be favored??? Who should have been favored today?? SNS of course had good chances to win at GP this year. He ran a nice 3rd only a length behind two good milers in the Hal's Hope. In the Millions Classic he ran his poorest race of the year for some reason. To say he had no shot is not true. He wasnt' favored at Hawthorne. My earnings argument has zero flaw. Noone is not allowing horses to run in races.
The Preakness fell apart?? No...SNS was the one chasing very quick fractions set by the McLaughlin horse. If the race "fell part"...he is the one that should have been out of the money. He held on. Yes, if Barbaro doesn't break down he finishes 3rd most likely. Ok, I'll give you that.
I prefer to give Trombetta credit for finding places for his horse to run. IF he finds 250,000 and 400,000 dollar grade 3 races with 4 and 5 horse fields at Hawthorne and Lone STar...good for him. More people should try it!!
If these horses are so overrated, more than 2 other horses really should have shown up today.
Sweetnorthernsaint has been an excellent horse on off tracks as well, so I don't think it's fair to downgrade B and Js effort as a slop only effort. I think SNS was 2 for 2 in slop as well coming into today.