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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I don't think anybody is saying that...I get tired of repeating myself but...angles are another handicapping tool, they can be of value in determining whether a horse is a good bet or not. They don't take the place of normal handicapping or common sense. Last year, I bet Barbaro despite the RAN Curse, I bet (unfortunately) Point Given despite his running afoul of a couple angles...they are tools, nothing more!
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You may get tired of repeating yourself, but I also get tired of seeing these angles portrayed as handicapping tools. Frankly I don't see these rules, or angles, as just ANOTHER handicapping tool, I see them as BAD handicapping tools. As you say, normal handicapping and common sense should apply to this race, like it does to other races.
Not having raced at two does not apply to many derby starters, so it doesn't rule out many horses. The far more difficult task is what to do with all the horses that did start at two.
You mention that you posted that list to show what Curlin is up against. To me that kind of thinking is wrong, he is not up against all that history, he is only up against this field on Saturday.