Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Pgardn, again, what did he call his daughter besides "pig?"

I agree, a small child doesn't get empathy, but this girl is 11 years old; she's not a small child. She's a pre-teen and I know by 11 years old I certainly understood my actions could hurt others. Were you still getting belted at age 11? I certainly wasn't getting spanked at that age anymore. In addition, that court order requiring these phone calls applies not only to Baldwin, but also to her- by turning her phone off, either she or her mother was in violation of a court order. And again, an 11-year-old is old enough to understand if the court says you do something, you do it.

I'm not saying this is all the kid's, or Basinger's fault- Baldwin is a bad-tempered loudmouth who got famous too young, no question (hell, the whole family is weird- check out his God-lovin' brother's "ministry"), but I think he's being crucified in the press over things that frankly, lots of parents have been guilty of doing- losing their tempers with their kids. And I'm sure the kid is messed up by how ugly her parents' divorce was and lashing out- again, something kids all over the country do every day. As I said, I think it's a tempest in a teapot. I mean, even you took it as an opening to ruminate over why liberals aren't saints. Because only saints are saints. Liberals are people, like anyone else, and screw up. And when it's a big deal, they should be taken to task for it. I just don't think this is a big deal.