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Originally Posted by Danzig
no, but when you add up everything each has done, i don't see that curlins accomplishments and ability add up to street senses...
street sense doesn't deserve to be the fave because of one work, but i don't think curlin should be when you look at his career and who he's raced.
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Tueflesberg beat Hard Spun fair and square in the Southwest.
Tueflesberg held his own against Street Sense going nine furlongs in the Blue Grass while obviously racing at a distance that is a bit beyond optimum for him.
Tueflesberg has raced fairly often by modern standards, has some foundation, and had a very large experience edge over Curlin when they faced off in the Rebel, on the same track where he had just beaten Hard Spun.
In the Rebel, Curlin was making his second start, his stakes debut and his two turn debut.
In the Rebel, Curlin made a wide move on the second turn and completely dusted the field including Tueflesberg, and won by many open lengths.
My only point is that while Curlin hasn't been in a dog fight, and lacks normal derby foundation, I wouldn't dismiss him based on class, or because of who he raced against. Its not like this is such an overly classy group and in my view he fits right in.