You can always tell who Vic and Durkin bet when they are calling a race. Trevor Denman is the best in the US. He can spot a horse making move before the horse even makes it. Durkin and Vic will say a horse is making move when the horse has already gotten the lead. Both are average at best. The guy who calls those races in Japan is about the best I have ever heard. But I will take Denman over anyone in the US.