DTS, agree with everything you say, although I am a liberal (although I refuse to join the Democratic party, so there ya go).
BB, we will obviously never agree on anything political, but I really don't care about Clinton and his private sex life. I do care about wiretapping, climate change and the deficit. I'd vote for *any* politician who actually did something for the voters instead of for a select group of donors.
Exceller, to quote:
"The worse thing about liberals is they actually pretend to look out for the little guy but they are led mostly by elitist NYers and SFers that fly around in private jets telling americans to conserve oil. They have killed the working class part of the democratic party."
I could rewrite that and swap "liberals" for conservatives and "democratic" for Republican, and we'd have the same thing...except I suppose Republicans tell us to burn oil instead of conserve it. Neither party is sacrosanct, and both have abandoned most of their constituents, if you ask me...but most of my friends are liberal, and we are anything but rich or from NY or SF (although what exactly is wrong with being from a big city?? Cities are part of this country, too). I get a little tired of the liberal elitist stereotype. Yes, I'm educated. So are a lot of your conservative pundits -- they're Ivy Leaguers, for Pete's sake! They have private jets, too! They aren't exactly helping the working class in New Orleans, or anywhere else. Are you telling me that Tom DeLay and co are any less elitist/wealthy/powerful than the Democratic leaders? Neither side is comprised of "average" Americans, the last time I checked.
I think the NYT was spot-on. We have a right to know what's being done in our name, particularly when you can't actually jeopardize the operation because the banks are under subpoena and have to comply anyway. I think terrorists are smart enough to know we're probably monitoring international financial and communications channels anyway, and I'll take freedom of the press over communist-style suppression in the name of state security any day (I've been to Cuba, and we don't want to go that way).
I *love* my country. I'm away now and miss it like I never imagined I would. I just don't like the way it's headed, and last time I checked I still had the right to say so (although 'Pent would probably come to get me if he were around here...lol).
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