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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
And my point Randall, is that of course all closes are not equal, but none of them are phoney or a mirage. They are what they are, and sometimes what you might call a phony closer ends up wearing the Roses.
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Phony closers don't wear roses. They fill out superfectas....Monarchos was a fast closer. He ran fast races closing against fast horses. That's why he won....Giacomo was a one paced horse, he isn't even a closer. I'd say he's the worst Derby winner since Lil E Tee.