[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

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Just a suggestion, maybe you might want to be consistent in your own thoughts, and figure out what you're trying to say before posting.
Someone suggested trying to make your own figures. That would be a great idea because you would soon find out what the issues are that create these problems. Another suggestion I have is since you seem to like raw times so much, and since they are universally available, just use the raw times and let everyone else work with these quacky figure systems.

How about this sir. This Beyer stuff is not a system. The theory in general is a good one. Is that a little better? Also, I didn't say use raw times. I said the raw numbers that the Beyer's come up with. There is a difference. The formula that they use takes into account several factors, among them race results from that day, par times over a given period for classes and distances. I would like if they used the formula and come up with a raw number and leave it at that without adjusting based on previous performances and especially subsequent performances. I don't know how one can possibly use past and subsequent performances to judge 2yo's and 3yo's. They are changing so much from race to race. Most of them are not set to run at their peak but are building up to their peak with each race. Many of them are trying new distances and tracks for the first time. How in the world can anyone know how fast they are likely to run or what they should be running during this period? If u want to use past and subsequent performances on an established horse, say a Lava Man, that would at least make more sense. But not on developing horses.