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Originally Posted by FairPlay
Flying First Class OP 19 Feb 6F 107
Summer Doldrums AQU 10 Feb 1 1/16M 106
Mr Tex SA 09 Mar 6F 105
Deadly Dealer GP 03 Mar 7 1/2F 104
Exhale SA 15 Jan 6 1/2F 104
Ravel SA 03 Feb 1 1/8M 104
King of the Roxy GP 03 Mar 7 1/2F 103
Adore the Gold GP 03 Feb 6 1/2F 102
Circular Quay FG 10 Mar 1 1/16M 102
Coco Belle (f) SA 01 Feb 6F 102
Liquidity SA 03 Feb 1 1/8M 102
Texas Voyager SA 13 Jan 5 1/2F 102
Curlin GP 03 Feb 7F 101
Great Hunter SA 03 Mar 1 1/16M 101
Forefathers GP 03 Feb 6 1/2F 100
Teuflesberg OP 19 Feb 1M 100
Dream Rush (f) GP 10 Feb 6 1/2F 99
Ketchikan FG 16 Feb 1M 99
Sam P. SA 03 Mar 1 1/16M 99
Spin Master GP 03 Feb 7F 99
Street Magician GP 10 Feb 6F 99
Bold Start GP 03 Mar 7 1/2F 98
Ketchikan FG 10 Mar 1 1/16M 98
Nobiz Like Shobiz GP 03 Feb 1M 98
Try to Fly SA 03 Mar 6F 98
Do you want the list of faster older horses, too? This is the Beyer leaderboard for all distances, but plenty of Triple Crown nominees are so-far faster than Nobiz's 98.
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Yes it would have been more appropriate to consider just three yr old routes. which Sniper has done. My point is that there are no breakaway speed merchants on that list that are so far ahead of NoBiz that you can just cast him aside and call him too slow. Some of those numbers I think are a little suspect and will need to be confirmed. He may not win the derby, but No Biz gives hints that he could run even better if he behaves, maybe blinkers will help, but he certainly this year can't be put on the list of being too slow to win the derby as it would take only a very small improvement to put him right in the mix.