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Originally Posted by somerfrost
I don't disagree regarding responsibility but...the way to deal with this mess is to debate the issues and elect a capable person to office (White House as well as Congress)...Bush and his excuse-makers should be "punished" by being voted out of office, history will have the conclusive say on his Presidency. My problem is this talk of Impeachment and worse...dangerous! Remember that the Republican zealots tried to remove a President from office for his sexual behavior...we simply don't need that kind of hate-mongering! If there is direct and compelling evidence that a crime was committed, then that's another matter but as much as we may disagree with the decisions made, that's not grounds for screwing with the Constitution...there is a reason why no President has been removed from office! The Vet thing is shameful...absolutely shameful! But I doubt it's the personal responsibility of the President. Iraq is a mess...but both parties agreed to the war and all the name calling doesn't replace action to change direction...and that action still hasn't happened! Personal liberties vs protection from Terrorism is a debatable subject, where should the lines be drawn? I think this Administration has gone way to far but again...that's not criminal, it's political! Congress could have forcefully addressed this issue and it did...it sided with the Administration despite the rhetoric! Do we remove Senators and Congresspersons from office? Do we charge everyone in office with "war crimes"? We the people have the power to correct this mess by demanding standards, demanding debate not name-calling, and voting for competent leaders...we get what we deserve quite frankly!
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SF,
Your response was long and thoughtful.
Many of your questions deserve answers.
Regrets that I'm not privy to the information you seek.
OK...
Let's start with the assertion that both parties endorsed going to war with Iraq.
Has the "intelligence" provided for such been called to question as being faulty? Who provided it? Answer, the same guy that said it would be a "slam dunk". A Bush CIA appointee.
Who appointed the prvious Sec of Defense?
Yes, the American people are demanding answers. There is nothing wrong with that.
I disagree with you in that I think that Nixon should have been held accountable for his decisions rather than accepting a pardon from Ford (an admission of guilt).
The United States set precedent at Nuremburg, and the rest of the world saw. Times have changed, but the standards haven't.
In my view, the only way the USA can regain any semblance of credibility with the countries with which we share this planet is to hold our leaders, those who have made decisions that affect those others as well as ourselves,
to be held accountable for their decisions that were sold based on lies, that were bought by a fearful populace after 9-11, and that no amount of name calling will excuse their actions in any court of law.
The dead don't speak.
The murderers should answer.
The world is watching.
The world is waiting.
As you said, "We all deserve that."