First, to the original subject and maidens winning the Derby: Today it'd be all but impossible unless the maiden had a lot of high quality seconds in graded stakes because you need to be in the top 20 in graded stakes earnings to even qualify to run in the Kentucky Derby.

Now, for the real joke of the thread where people actually are performing revisionist history on Man O'War's career and status as the greatest racehorse in history. Sure a case can be made for either Secretariat, Citation, Native Dancer of even Kelso. But to call Man O'War massively overrated or way overrated and any part overrated is just comical at best and incredibily ignorant at worst. He lost one race in his career, set track and world records for speed, beat a Triple Crown winner straight up in a match race, and then turned into perhaps the greatest sire of all time. Any chance that those of you who think that Man O'War is overrated are part of the Babe Ruth is overrated, Bobby Jones is overrated, and Muhammad Ali is overrated fan club?