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Originally Posted by Bababooyee
I think it was supposed to be funny...I was woozy from shoveling snow for over an hour and had low blood sugar. Looks conry now, but cest la vie. Either way, lighten up. 
Sorry, I don't get Old Man humor so well yet. Consider me lightened. And what does "conry" mean? I'm not familiar with the term. Old people word?
Like I said, I am accepting that for the purpose of this argument, and like I said, use a similar rationale and you can defend disparity in school quality based on disparity in property taxes paid. Like I said, I think you can connect the dots from here.
I have no idea what you are saying here. I was saying that to put blame for failing schools entirely on parents, without taking into account the inherent inequality in funding when school funding is based on property taxes, is not accurate. As a renter, I pay no property (read, school) taxes, and frankly, I should. I benefit from an educated populace, too.
Depends.
On what? That's no answer.
It is not an obsession. There is an important distinction (legally and philosophically) between the two. The fact that you want them to be the same (even really, really bad) doesn't make it so. And that you seem unwilling to explore the differences and remain in the dark is your problem, not mine.
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No, because you didn't answer the question. But seeing as how I still don't know if you answered my question from months ago about Israel and the religious right, I guess I should expect this?
Bababooyee, the only thing that will keep society continuing to progress is people being willing to say that something, even if not enshrined yet in the Constitution, is a right. And if that something is morally correct, chances are, it will become one. I think people do have a right to an education, just as anti-slavery advocates once thought people had a right to be free. And suffragists once thought women had a right to a vote. Those didn't start as rights, but they became them. If we all shrugged, and said "Well, it's not in the Constitution as it stands now" and no one was willing to say, "But it should be" then I'd not be voting and Condi Rice, who many of you conservatives are touting on another board as Presidential caliber, would be calling Bush "Massah" instead of his wife calling her "Dr. Rice."
And sometimes we screw up (see Amendments 18 and 21 of the Constitution) but we must always be willing to work for it.
Education isn't a cure-all for society's ills, but it helps to level the playing field a bit. I'm all for it.
(If you did get around to the Israel thing, let me know and my apologies for missing that the thread had been updated)