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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i will give a few examples of why i dont understand them, and why i think they are totally irrelavant in chosing a horse to wager on..
invasor goes 1 1/4 in 2:02 in the bcc and gets a 116 beyer
discreet cat goes 1 mile in 1:32.2 and gets a 116 beyer
now invasor time for that distance is solid, nothing special though
discreet cat sets a track record and is almost in hand the whole race ...
so how do they both get 116, how dosent discreet cat get something like a 125 beyer ? i just dont understand them.
strong contender in the dwyer last year goes 1 1/16 in 1:45.1 ... now that time does not even have to be considered good that can be considered a slow time he gets a huge beyer of 109, horses go that same distance in 1:42 and dont even get 100 beyer's
i know what track and what distance has something to do with it, but it just dosent make since to me and there are so many other examples i could give.
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You gotta get over the unadjusted times. The value of figures is knowing when that 1 1/16 race run in 1:45 is faster than the race run a week later in 1:43 1/5. The point of Beyers, or any other figures, is to take the speed of the surface into the equation.