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Originally Posted by JJP
First off, what was so irresponsible? I mentioned no names of trainers or horses. I also stated that it was just opinion, and I couldn't prove any horse was drugged. Its a reality in racing, like it or not, at least some of the time. As handicappers, we have to factor it in.
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I think it was irresponsible because you were making suggestions to people that were flat out poor and if someone didn't know better they would be led badly in the wrong direction. To me this is a very bad thing to do.
Beth accurately pointed out that this theory of being able to identify some physicality to indicate drugging is not only flawed but patently absurd. Only the most astute observers of horseflesh, and ones that do this on a daily basis, while maintaining notes, would have any chance of doing this with any real degree of accuracy, and even they will tell you what you are suggesting is very difficult. For you to intimate that a horse " on his toes " might be drugged is a VERY bad piece of advice.
On your betting action theories....there are many reasons a horse may be taking more money than YOU would expect, and the most plausible is that you mishandicapped the race. But, to suggest that what one considers unusual betting action somehow translates into a horse who has been drugged is indefensible and flat out wrong in that while I suppose there is a scintilla of a possiblity you are right there are MANY more reasons that you would be wrong. Once again you are leading people in the wrong direction.
As for your suggestion that a switch to a better rider indicates a possibly drugged horse...well much like the previous example it more likely means a whole lot of other things.
Now, the other two things you suggested do have some merit, but they can only be observed after the race has been run, but are worth noting for future handicapping.
Once again, I believe it is irresponsible to suggest the things you did to people because should even one person take you seriously they have been severly led in the VERY wrong direction.