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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Pgardn,
You pose some interesting questions.
Answer to the one about innocent Iraqis getting slaughtered...last I read, the Johns-Hopkins one... seems to me that 650,000 should be more than enough to pay back for 9-11, even though the Iraqis weren't involved. Lancet's numbers are similar.
Heck, lets just kill a couple of hundred thousand more if it make you and Dubby sleep better. It's a "just cause" after all.
Question number two...Pat, I didn't make this mess...geesh, I didn't even vote for that dictator/err loser/err war criminal,,,nyuk, nyuck. I wish he's go hunting with his vice president. That would solve some problems.
Question three...Do you really believe there is any more that can be done to "stabalize" that debacle? If you do, good luck on that. Let me tell you, I believe in the Easter bunny too. Let's just throw a few more thousand American kids at this. They believe as well. Dorothy was told how to get home, remember? Click your heels three times and repeat, I wish I was home, I wish I was home.
And another answer..."cut and run" was the label that the failed administration accused others of (Murtha, and others that could see through the charade and labels), those that had some sense to speak against the insanity.
You might not agree with me. Many don't. More do lately (70%).
I can't wait for the World Court to begin the trials.
The rest of the world is onto the "game". They'll want answers too.
As I've said before, genocide is easily justified. It still doesn't make it right.
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1. Payback? You think W tried to payback Iraq by killing citizens that had nothing to do with 9/11 (not that anybody in Iraq did)? Unlike what many Republicans and yourself believe, I was told we went into Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction, not retribution for 9/11. As no weapons were found in the coming days after the invasion, the Al-Q excuses, get rid of a madman excuse became the primary reason for going in. But I never heard of any payback by body count.
2. I did not make the mess personally myself either. I repeat, I did not vote for George Bush (for rather selfish reasons concerning my father, rip, and cell research for Alzheimers). But DTS, you live in this country as I do. WE made the mess. Like it or not. It is OUR responsibility.
3. Yes. I believe there is the possibility of establishing some order in Baghdad as I stated before using the tactics stated before which could lead to some sort of interim government as I stated before. However I do not believe it is probable, as I stated before. But we as a nation cannot "pull out immediately" as we will have an assurred blood bath. As a citizen of this country, leaving without trying is as morally wrong as anything we have done so far. (Treatment of innocents by some of OUR soldiers, changing OUR reasons for going in after intervention, leaving OUR soldiers in harms way because of knowingly underestimating the number of troops we would need because the public could not stomach it).