If we just up and pulled everyone right now DTS, you think that will save more innocent people from dying? You appear to care about lives lost. If we just pulled out, do you have any idea how many INNOCENT Iraqis get slaughtered? The ones without the guns?

We made a mess. We have a responsibility to at least try and stabilize in some manner before we get out. And this is a last ditch effort. Once the other parties know we are leaving, and they feel in a position of strength, slaughters will occur. If they feel it has gone on long enough, and enough insurgent groups are decapitated, fewer will die.

But it would be an attrocity to pull out immediately. And if this last effort goes terribly bad, we still might have an attrocity. But no guilt will be associated with cut and run, letem get slaughtered. Maybe I care about a wider range of people than you.