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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Was Buzzards Bay a terrible horse? Not at all.....I just think he was a one race wonder...and his record pretty much shows that....
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I don't know how you can say BB is a one-race wonder. He is a mulitiple graded stakes winner. He won the Grade I Santa Anita Derby. He won the Grade III All American Handicap. He won the Grade II Oaklawn Handicap. He is obviously not a one-race wonder. A one race wonder is a horse that has only won one big race.
With regard to Ellis, his numbers speak for themselves. Bad trainers don't have years when they win at 29% clips. Bad trainers don't win graded stakes races at a 40% clip.
I noticed you are starting to backtrack a bit. At first you said that Ellis is terrible. Now you are saying that he is average.
What do you expect from him when he comes on TVG? I never said that he could make his living handicapping. I think he comes off fine on TVG. He comes off just as well as the other trainers that they have on.