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Originally Posted by stonegossard
Buzzards bay got an EASY trip/lead at OP. A lot of other horses could have won with the same set up. Was not an impressive race. The real Buzzards Bay showed his true colors next race.....where is the horse now?
Don't Get Mad was actually a horse I liked. But please...the Indiana Derby????? Was an ok horse.
Running 4th in the derby is ok..nothing to brag about. Losing to the worst derby winner in the history of derbies (Giacomo) isnt something to brag about.
Yeah...Action This Day was a nice horse...please...the horse was the worst BC winner ever. Horse didnt do **** before and was horrible after.....lightning struck the day he won the BC race....and it was Mandella ( a solid trainer) who trained the horse...not Ellis....
SO far you have given me Buzzards Bay.....Don't Get Mad....And to a lesser extent ATD. Sounds like the old tugboat needs to swing around..pick these 3 horses up...and head off to the Island of Misfit Horses with this group...
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Buzzard's Bay hardly got an easy trip in the Oaklawn Handicap? He went the half in :46 3/5. Do you know how fast that is at Oaklawn? In most of those stakes races at Oaklawn, they go the half in :48 or slower. Oaklawn plays different than most tracks. You can pretty much subtract a second from whatever they run the half-mile in there. When Afleet Alex won the Arkansas derby, they ran the half in :48. In the Rebel this year, they ran the half in :47 4/5. When Rockport Harbor won that stakes race there, he went the half in :48. You rarely see horses run the half in under :47 there. When they do, they aren't around at the finish.
Buzzard's Bay obviously did not fire in the Stephen Foster. Did you notice that he hasn't run since then. That's usually a sign that something was amiss. Buzzard's Bay is on the comeback trail right now. He'll be ready to run in about 6 weeks.
With regard to Action This Day, the only thing that is important is that it was a great buy. They bought him relatively cheap as a yearling. I don't remeber the excat amount but I think it was around $150,000. He won the $1 million BC Juvenille and then they made an additional $1-2 million on his stud deal. I think Ellis can be proud of picking out a horse for $150,000 that returned his owner about $2-3 million. It doesn't really matter whether you or I think ATD was a good horse or not.