What is your point? Point Given was 1 in 10. FuPeg is actually worth more anyway. The Travers winners are garbage compared to the Kentucky Derby winners. Outside of the two you named, there is nothing there. 9 of the last 10 derby winners were big time horses. Once again, what is your point? Are you saying anyone would rather win the Travers instead of the KY Derby? I think you are the clueless one. Go ahead, with the exception of Monarchos, Point Given is a bigger name than who?