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Yeah, it's tough to get a season to Catholic Boy and War of Worlds....Booked Open with deals available...
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Are those horses sired by the leading sire in NA the past 4 years? Are they out of a mare sired by the current #2 sire in NA (Into Mischief still the current #1) who is the only horse to sire 3 BC winners on a single card? Give me a break.
The leading sire spot in NA over the past few decades is flush with dual surface winners.
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Turf is a negative, which makes no sense but whatever. Being a versatile stallion is a positive, but that isn't the reality.
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Of the current top 10 in NA, 9 stallions have shown competency in siring good turf horses. Gun Runner being the only hold out.
That's reality...
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Yes, Don Adam wants to make a stallion vs. making money. He has money; he doesn't have a stallion. Yes, General Jim can stand in NJ tomorrow; that doesn't count.
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Didn't realize you were the guy's spokesperson. Never seen anything in print that said Courtland Farm was desperate to get in the stallion business.
And on the money front it's not all conspicuous consumption. They coughed up $1 million for some City of Light colt & whined about having to go that high to purchase.
Rightfully so, City of Light appears to be a dud sire at this point.
This whole "stallion" thing is another rabbit hole anyway. This horse done anything to suggest stallionhood is in his future...
The only thing he's got going for him right now is his pedigree.
You hoping he lucks out in a Hail Mary pace meltdown in the Allen Jerkens doesn't make sitting on him without a race since his Woody Stephens debacle some logical plan...
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It's a weird spot; with the utmost respect tossing the dirt towel into the ring in August is questionable.
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Again, Lure had almost an identical trajectory. Lo and behold it all worked out even though he didn't run in the King's Bishop.
There is absolutely nothing "weird" about a good 3yo switching to the turf in the summer. Along with 2yo racing, it is one of the more highly anticipated aspects of the racing season.
Or haven't you noticed the past few years all the $$$ invested into the turf 3yo stakes series in NY?
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Shug is O for to date. I have no idea how you pitch the Pat Day mile winner just because of a few good turf works.
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What a joke. The Pat Day Mile? It's an undercard race, not a Classic...Have a clue.
A "few good turf works"? Maybe you haven't seen the horse's entire record either.
He's 2 for 3 on turf with a win over the course & a highly rated allowance win at Keeneland (another track where even an allowance win is a big deal).
That aside, why do you act like time is running out for the horse? Off this race Friday he can either come back in the Jerkens, run back in the Saranac, wait for the Gallant Bob, or a hundred other races. Maybe they are trying to decide if they should point for the Cigar Mile or the Hollywood Derby to get this Grade 1 that will somehow fulfill all of Don Adams' hopes & dreams....
As for Shug...what is he? O for 9 or something at the meet?
Yeah, he's clearly lost it. Time to hang it up.
Clearly senility has taken hold if he is attempting to put a multiple turf winner back on the grass after losing his dirt form following a move he has had great success with in the past. Even more outrageous when we are talking about a second tier race with a bloated purse.
I guess a money allowance with an $100k purse against some salty older horses would be much more appropriate ahead of a start in the Jerkens?